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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Sherry Giles Cozzalio Taylor
Published November 3, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Sherry Giles Cozzalio Taylor

In our thirty second edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Sherry tells how growing up in a military family informed her decision to go to Vietnam to support our soldiers, how she had a couple close calls, including a mortar landing in the middle of a stand down party she was attending, and how the Donut Dollies were at the forefront of the women’s movement and that she believes they made a difference for the men who served.

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Please meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Sherry Giles Cozzalio Taylor…

What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

I grew up in a military family.  I understood the sacrifice a man makes when he chooses to serve and safeguard his country.  Many of the boys I went to high school with were drafted and went to fight a war we didn’t understand and were too young to know what we supported.  In 1968, I was a senior attending Oklahoma State University.   Three months before graduation, I had a teaching job lined up and was planning a move to Evergreen, Colorado the following August. During the late 60’s there were few opportunities for women to serve their country, so when, I read an article about college graduates working for the Red Cross in Vietnam, I knew I had found a rare opportunity to serve my country. During a time of anti-war protests, I was going to show our young soldiers I cared about them and supported them.

I applied to the American Red Cross for a position with Supplemental Recreational Activities Overseas.  I received a letter back with an airline ticket to St. Louis, MO., to interview for the position.  During the interview I was told only people who volunteer for Vietnam were sent there.  I volunteered. A few weeks before graduation I received word I had been hired and was scheduled to attend the June class in Charlottesville, VA.   In training, I learned to hem my blue dress no shorter than knee length and to style my hair so it didn’t touch my collar.  We studied the history of the Red Cross, military rank and protocol, and learned how to develop a program.  Six weeks after my college graduation, I stepped off a plane at Tan Son Nhut Air Base to a blast of heat and unusual smells.  I never made it to Colorado and have never regretted it.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I was first stationed at Long Binh (II Field Force) from June – October, 1968, then TDY (temporary duty) at Phan Rang Air Base in October, 1968, followed by Bien Hoa from November, 1968 – January, 1969 and finally Dong Tam from January – June, 1969. I was known as Sherry in Vietnam.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

Each unit was different. Long Binh had 12 girls while Bien Hoa had five.  We would go out in pairs. We were usually scheduled with a different Donut Dollie each day.   A new girl was always scheduled with a seasoned girl, who taught her what to do and introduced her to the guys in the units.

The Long Binh (II Field Force) Unit had a Recreation Center.  We usually had one day each week scheduled in the Recreation Center.  We also used this time to develop our programs and perform our assigned unit duties (mine was secretary – I typed the notes taken during our weekly staff meetings).  In pairs, we also traveled by jeep to many Long Binh units such as, logistics support, motor pools, signal units, etc.  We went by jeep to Saigon to visit combat troops positioned in Cho Lon and at the Y-bridge; traveled by jeep to an Australian unit at Nui Dat; flew by helicopter to a signal unit on Hill 831, Nui Ba Din and flew to Ka Tum.  We also supported Bien Hoa Air Base.  When we were on the road visiting combat troops, we were up early to program at several different units.  We ate C-rations for lunch that the troops shared with us, while sitting on sandbags or under whatever shade we could find.  We arrived home in time for a meal in the II Field Force Officer’s mess.  Our home had a 12’ fence surrounding our long two-story barracks.  We showered in an open bay with six showerheads – no hot water.  Our rooms were small, with a cot and screened opening for air circulation.

The Phan Rang Air Base unit was a treat. The Air Force had given this unit of Donut Dollies their own pink jeep and provided them with a well furnished air-conditioned “home” with hot water.  Each bedroom had a nice twin size bed and mattress.  I worked in the Recreation Center the two weeks I was there.

The Bien Hoa Army Unit opened in October. We lived in a Quonset hut next to the fire station.  It was hot so we rarely closed the openings that served as windows in our rooms.  Our rooms were long and narrow, with the usual cot.  I asked a friend from the Air Force side of Bien Hoa, if he could get a pillow since my cot only came with sheets.  My room was next to the firehouse and every morning I would wake to a loud speaker with AFN Radio blaring out, “Goooooood morning, Vietnam.”

The Bien Hoa Unit also took over support of Bien Hoa Air Base.  We didn’t have a Recreation Center.  We had a workroom in our hooch, where we developed our programs and performed our assigned administrative tasks (mine was keeping the supply room stocked).  A typical day could include: programing to various units of airmen stationed at the air base.  We also worked on the open bed of a truck serving Kool-Aid and chatting with airmen working in hangars near the runway.  Other days we programed to groups of guys at support and logistics units on the Bien Hoa Army side of Bien Hoa.  We might be scheduled to fly by helicopter out to units that belonged to the 101 Airborne Division.   We would be dropped off for a couple of hours to program and talk to guys and then picked up and flown to the next unit.  We would visit 3 units and we always made it home by nightfall.  The reason Donut Dollies traveled in pairs was a safeguard if they ever got stuck overnight in a remote unit.  It never happened during my year there.

The Dong Tam Unit supported the 9th Infantry Division.   There was no SRAO Recreation Center there.  Our primary role was to fly by helicopter to forward base camps where combat units lived.  Our days began at dawn.  We would be picked up by a driver and driven to the airfield.  Our schedule would include two or three stops, where we would spend 2+ hours before being pickup and flown to the next unit.  Once we were dropped off at a base camp we would stop in at the operations center to get our schedule.  A soldier would be assigned to take us to a group of guys waiting for the Donut Dollies.  We would play games or just talk to a group of tired guys who had spent the night patrolling the boonies.

On days I was scheduled with Emily, she usually brought her guitar along.  The guys loved to sing along with us.  We often spent time talking and kidding with a platoon preparing to go out.  We ate C-Rations for lunch and drank hot Cokes.  We often returned to Dong Tam after mess hall hours, so we “dined” on LRP Rations, which were an epicurean delight after our C-Ration lunch. Tara, one of the Donut Dollies in our unit had connections with a long-range reconnaissance patrol captain, who provided us with all the LRP Rations we could eat.  On Sundays, we always dressed up and had dinner with the Division generals and senior officers.

When we were scheduled a day in our Unit, we worked on our programs.  We might also be scheduled to visit the 9th Infantry Battalion Medical Hospital wards.  Or, we programed to guys working in support units in Dong Tam.  We usually served Kool-Aid to guys working in the headquarters area.

We also visited Mobile Riverine Force troops and Navy sailors living on ships anchored in the Mekong River, just off Dong Tam.  We visited and programed on small watercraft with a small number of men as well.  When we didn’t go by helicopter to the ships, we had to be carried from the bank of the river to a small boat, in the arms of one of the men.  There were lots of volunteers for that job.  Visiting the ships was always a treat because we would eat in the air-conditioned officers dining room, with white tablecloths, “real” dishes and silverware and no flies.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

In Dong Tam, “incoming” mortar attacks occurred more often than not.  We spent a lot of time in our bunker.  One evening a round exploded just outside our 12’ wooden fence that threw shrapnel all over our metal roof.   Probably the closest call I had was while attending a stand down party.  Periodically units would come in from the field and we usually had invitations to attend stand down parties.  Steaks and beer were served and we would each sit with a group, talk about home and share funny stories.  After we had eaten, I was standing with a group of guys when a mortar round landed in the middle of the party.  Shrapnel hit almost everyone except the three donut dollies attending the party.  The circle of men around me protected me.  I know at least one man died.

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

I wasn’t injured, however, I did spend two weeks in the Long Binh Hospital with dysentery.  I had been in country a couple of months and was visiting with a group of soldiers under the Y-bridge in Saigon.  A Vietnamese lady offered me a Coke, which I happily accepted.  I was hot, tired and very thirsty.  After a few sips, one of the guys I was talking to grabbed the Coke from my hand and threw that wonderful cold drink away.  He said, “Never accept any drink with ice in it. The ice is made with river water.  About a week later, I woke up with a very high fever and was sent by the medic who ran our little clinic, located at II Field Forces headquarters, to the hospital at Long Binh.  I was packed in ice for a couple of days.  The worst part of the experience was being in a huge ward with a lot of guys on bunk beds in long rows.  Since they didn’t have facilities for women, one of the medics set up a little “potty room” for me, made out of sheets hung over a frame.  It was at the far end of the ward tucked among a row of occupied bunk beds.  I think you get the picture of me walking down a long passage way in my hospital gown pulling my IV pole.  I’m sure you can all imagine me trying not to make the noises that come along with dysentery – not to mention the smell.  Then I had to walk all the way back to my bed with many eyes following as I passed by.

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

We were never scheduled to visit severely injured solders.  We did visit wounded soldiers, many who we knew and recognized from our visits to the forward base camps.  Although their injuries were serious, we knew they were going to survive and in many cases were going to be sent home.  We were happy for them.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

I thought I would return home to take a teaching position.  However, shortly before my year with the Red Cross was about to end, I was struggling with the intense feelings I had experienced during my year.  How was I was going to put them away in the time it took the Freedom Bird to fly from Saigon to Travis Air Force Base?  How could I leave “my guys” behind? I talked to the Red Cross and asked about continuing to serve in some capacity.  I was offered a job at St. Albans Naval Hospital, in Queens, New York, in Hospital Recreation.  I helped operate the hospital recreation center, coordinate volunteers and spend time on the wards with the wounded soldiers returning home from Vietnam.  I had found my transition home. I missed the excitement and unpredictable days with groups of lively guys.  But, as time passed I began to “come home again.”

When I left Vietnam, I took a delay in route home through Hong Kong, where I met Marge Fisher, a Donut Dollie who was on R&R from Dong Tam.  Then I headed to Travis AFB. I took a bus to San Francisco where I connected with a flight to Little Rock, AK, via Love Field in Dallas.  My flight into Dallas was the last flight of the day.  For a year, people had surrounded me and now I found myself completely alone in a big room, waiting for my flight the next morning.  I hated feeling so disconnected. I was glad I had a job to look forward to and hoped it would give me the sense of purpose I was leaving behind.  I spent three weeks visiting my parents, and then drove to New York City and my new job.  The first few years home, I couldn’t see a war movie without a strong physical reaction.  I couldn’t separate the story on screen from the reality of war.

I never spoke of my time in Vietnam.  I knew serving there was not an acceptable choice and most people didn’t want to hear the word Vietnam.  I finally began to speak of my experiences there when I went to the Wall in Washington D.C. for Veteran’s Day, 1994.  I met Emily Strange, who also served in Dong Tam.  As Emily and I walked along the Wall, I began to cry.  It was several years before I could visit the Wall and walk along it without crying.  I was personally connected to the names on that wall in a profound way.  I knew way too many of the people on the 1968 – 1969 panels.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

We were pretty radical.  We went to war – a very unpopular war – to support our country and the guys who answered the call to serve.  We were young, independent women who were at the forefront of the women’s movement.   We made a difference.

 

 

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them?  Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

The first year I went to the Wall, I met a vet who put his arms around me and gave me a big hug. He said, “I just want to thank you girls for your service.  You have no idea how much you meant to us.  When I was wounded, I know the nurses saved my life, but you girls saved my soul.”  That was the first time I realized my time in Vietnam made a difference.

I go as often as I can to the 5th/60th Battalion, 9th Infantry Division Reunions.  Those guys make me feel pretty special.  I never get tired of hearing, “You girls meant so much to us.”  I always reunited with Emily and Marge at the reunions, but this past year Emily passed away and Marge couldn’t make it.  When I said I was going anyway, my husband expressed concern because I would be alone.  I smiled and said, “I will never be alone among these guys, they are my brothers and they always take care of me.  I remember some of these men from when Marge, Emily and I were in Vietnam playing games with them, and bringing a little touch of home to their days.

This past June, a young vet who had served several tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, was attending the reunion with his Dad.  He told me he wanted to give me a big hug for my service in Vietnam.  He told me, “You have no idea how much you mean to my Dad.” The vets see us as vets too.  They often express how upset they are that we are forgotten. Agent orange affected the health of several Donut Dollies and their children too.  I understand their frustration, but I also realize I volunteered for them because they did what was right when they were called to war.  I think it is shameful the American Red Cross doesn’t celebrate the amazing women who served in wars along side our soldiers.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

Boys and their toys – they loved taking us on rides on top of their APCs, or teaching us to drive them (I went on patrol sitting on top of an APC one afternoon while visiting a forward base camp.).  They wanted to show us how to shoot their M-16s. A C-130 co-pilot invited me up to the cockpit because the pilot wanted to visit with me and show me how to fly (I thought the poor guys in that plane must have been a little nervous with me flying.).  I rode on all kinds of boats, the airboat being most memorable.  A Cobra pilot took me for a ride one night from Dong Tam to Tan An Airfield, and back to show how smoothly he could land in the dark (The guys in the tower were surprised to hear my voice calling final as we approached the airfield.).

I will never forget the drive through Saigon, from II Field Force to Cho Lon.  The once beautiful city was bustling with huge OD green trucks stirring up dust.  Small motorcycles built for two had whole families sitting on the backs, weaving in and out of all the traffic.  Small horses pulled carts of goods and produce through all the chaos.  The drive through the market area was filled with exotic foods, silks, spices, fruits, and fish so strong I had to put a cloth to my nose to breathe.  Women would squat by the curbside to pee.  How beautiful and graceful the women were wearing their black and white ao dais, the traditional Vietnamese dress.  Then we would enter into the Chinese section, Cho Lon, to see our guys living among gray concrete ruins of buildings destroyed during the Tet Offensive.  On one visit, the guys had found a birdcage in the ruins and placed an empty can of Falstaff beer on the perch inside the cage.  They loved showing us their pet bird Falstaff.

One of my saddest memories was of a flight from Dong Tam to Tiger’s Lair, a forward base camp, where most of the guys had been engaged in large battle all night.  We sat on the edge of the airstrip, waiting for body bags with soldier’s boots sticking out, to be unloaded before we could get on.  That day we shared a ride back to Dong Tam with the bodies of soldiers who were killed during the time we were visiting.  Those were the days we didn’t program; we would just be there to talk about home.  We started the day by serving a hot breakfast to tired soldiers being brought in after a night of fighting.  They always had a smile for us when they lifted their heads to see who belonged to the unexpected soft voice asking if they wanted eggs and bacon?  The strangest experience we had was sharing a ride home from Tiger’s Lair, with a Viet Cong POW sitting on the helicopter floor at our feet.

On several occasions, we would be serving Kool-Aid in the 9th Infantry Division headquarters area when an enlisted guy would come running out of the headquarters building as we were leaving.  He would tell us the Chief of Staff was in one of his very bad moods and we always cheered him up when we stopped by with a cup of Kool-Aid.  We never served the officers, but we always went to the Chief of Staff’s office when we got this request.  He would always have a smile on his face when we left and the day would go smoother for everyone in his office.

One afternoon we were visiting with a platoon getting ready to go on patrol for the night.  As they lined up to go the guy on point asked if we wanted to walk out to the camp perimeter with them.  Of course we did. I took his rifle and walked point while we all sang the Disney song, “Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it’s off to work we go…”  When we got to the perimeter we waved goodbye to a bunch of smiles.

I was on R&R in Sydney, Australia.  While I was looking at a Harbor Cruise Poster in a travel agency store front window, one of the employees came out and asked if I would be interested in going on an evening cruise that night as their guest.  They had signed up more GIs on R&R for the cruise than they had girls to keep them company.  That seemed like fun and I was certainly comfortable talking to American soldiers.  I was leaning on the rail of the boat when a guy approached me and asked where I got the timing chain I was wearing as a bracelet.  He was a helicopter crew chief and was surprised to see the chain on a girl’s wrist.  As we talked, he told me he had extended his tour of duty because he had no reason to return to the U.S.  His wife and baby had been killed in a car accident during his first year in Vietnam and he was devastated.  As we talked and shared stories our conversation became lighthearted, sharing laughs and enjoying each other’s company.  When the cruise ended he told me for the first time since his wife and child had died, he was looking forward to going home.  He had forgotten how much fun it was to spend time with an American girl.  We parted there at the dock and I like to think he found happiness soon after he returned to the World.

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Sara Porter Smith
Published October 28, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Sara Porter Smith

In our thirty first edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Sara tells how the tumultuous 60’s prompted her to join the Donut Dollie program in the hope of making a difference, that she would get up at 5AM to chopper out to firebases to program to the soldiers, and that she has fond memories of the soldiers, her Donut Dollie sisters, and the children she visited at the orphanage in Danang.

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Please meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Sara Porter Smith…

What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

I graduated from college in 1970, having experienced the tumultuous 60’s, and thought I could make a difference.  I was extremely idealistic and felt I could solve world problems.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam? Did you go by a nickname?

I was stationed at Tuy Hoa from August – November 1970, at Danang from December 1970 – April 1971 and at Phan Rang from May – December 1971. I was in Vietnam 15 months, which was just a little longer than the typical year most Donut Dollies were in Vietnam.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

I was fortunate to be stationed at both Clubmobile and Red Cross Recreation Center units, so the days varied.  On Mobile Unit days, we got up around 4:30 a.m. or 5:00 a.m. in order to catch a chopper out to the forward area and firebases.  On Center days, we got up a little later, but arrived at the Center early enough to open the facility and make coffee and lemonade for the troops.

When in the field, we usually visited 4 – 6 forward areas or firebases in a day, staying an hour or so at each stop.  We presented a variety of  theme-centered recreational games and quizzes with the purpose of providing a short diversion from the war.

When at the Center, we created a monthly calendar of activities.  These activities ranged from card games and tournaments, chess and other board games, pool tournaments, theatre productions, small libraries of books and a comfortable environment to kick-back and relax.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

Twice: one time on a firebase when there was incoming fire and another time when the chopper I was in lost altitude too quickly.  Fortunately the pilot recovered before a crash occurred.

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

No.

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

A mixture of emotions because we needed to be upbeat and positive and at the same time, be compassionate and sensitive to what each soldier was experiencing.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

Very difficult.  My friends and family had no true understanding of what went on in Vietnam and seemed more concerned about living day-to-day life.  They did not ask in-depth questions, and I could not share anything other than general information.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

We truly cared.  We were there to make a difference and to help the soldiers.

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them?  Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

Most of them I know, do not know I was there and if I have told them, the initial impression would be that I was a nurse.  The other reaction was, “I never saw one of you there.”

The first time I was acknowledged or thanked was at the dedication of the Vietnam Women’s Memorial in Washington, DC.  I honestly was in shock and did not know what to say.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

The most important thing is the soldiers… many who made it home and many who did not.  I remember many of their stories.

Some really, really good things were the trips to orphanage in Danang.  I loved it there and was able to help the children.  It was situated on the South China Sea… a contrast, so to speak: the most beautiful setting and the deepest of tragedies.  I will always remember those little faces.

I remember many of the women in the Red Cross. I have not seen anyone since the dedication of the Vietnam Women’s Memorial in D.C. in 1993, but I think about these women more often than they will ever know.  It was unique time in all of our lives.

I was in the class that landed in country on Aug 4, 1970… same class as Ginny Kirsch. She was a sorority sister… she and I were very close.  She graduated from Miami University in Oxford, OH; I grew up 25 minutes from there in Indiana and then attended and graduated from Indiana University.  Both of us were Alpha Chi Omega’s in college… it created a bond.
(editor’s note: Please learn more about Ginny Kirsch, a Red Cross Donut Dollie who lost her life in Vietnam here)

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Roseann Krikston Johnson
Published October 13, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Roseann Krikston Johnson

In our thirtieth edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Roseann tells how a college course on the Vietnam “conflict” made her want to go to Vietnam to see what was happening for herself, that she experienced a night of incoming in Danang, and how seeing the smiling faces of young men on firebases made her job worthwhile.

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What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

In my senior year of college a course was offered as “Independent Study”, the subject was our choice and I chose 1969, Vietnam “conflict”.  I did mine on the history of Vietnam.  I was stunned, moved and had a desire to see for myself.  My oldest brother knew of a friend that had joined the Red Cross and volunteered.  I did my homework and realized this is exactly what I wanted to do.  Maybe gain some understanding and also maybe do something positive. I had just finished my student teaching (an eye opener) and decided an alternate course for at least a year.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I was stationed in Danang from July to October, 1969 and then at Bien Hoa from October 1969 to July 1970.  I was known as Roseann in Vietnam.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

A tough one, I’m not sure there ever was a “routine” day.  Whether you were out in the field doing mobile programs or in the recreation center, there was never a day where the unexpected did not occur.  Even in the recreation center, we had one young soldier who kept coming in day after day, and when I asked him, weren’t you scheduled for a freedom flight home, his answer was heart breaking.  He was an only child of a single parent.  He had become addicted to drugs while in Vietnam and couldn’t bear his mother seeing him like this.  No day was routine.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

I had a close call in Danang.  Incoming, rocket fire during one night.  Window glass shattered, diving under beds, and then hearing “to the bunker”.  Being careful of broken glass.  Scared and worried about our dog.  MP’s brought her to us in the bunker.

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

No.

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

Visiting hospitals was very difficult, especially one incident while in Danang.  We were in an outlying area (overnight) and got word that we were asked to visit a firebase the next day that wasn’t on the schedule.  When we got there via chopper, we were instructed not to do any programs but to visit with the troops.  We soon learned why it was to be a short visit.  One young solider gave me a pair of binoculars and I got a glimpse of the North Vietnamese flag.  We were very close to the DMZ.  The next day we visited the hospital and many of the young men we saw and talked to the day before at the firebase had been hit later that same day and were now lying in the hospital.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

Transition… another toughie.  I found it really hard to talk to others about what we did, how we did it, and what we saw and experienced.  It sounded so superficial, mobile recreation programs, running rec centers.  But no one saw the men’s faces when we got there or understand how crappy that “conflict” was, or how important it was for them to escape, if only for a short time from the grim reality of where they were and what they experienced and what was going on in the states.  I so loved getting together with other Donut Dollies at the 2010 reunion.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

None of us volunteered for selfish reasons.  We thought maybe we could make some sort of difference to defuse some of the negativity that was occurring in the states.   These young men (average age 19) didn’t ask for this assignment and needed something positive, and if that meant from the Red Cross Donut Dollies, so be it.

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them? Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

Many of the vets I have met never were in areas where we were present.  However, by chance I have met a few who’s reaction was very positive.  Our rec centers provided a little home away from home and they always loved talking to American females.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

First would be the faces of the young men participating in our mobile recreation programs.  Once they knew we were there, the sense of escape from reality and total enjoyment was so evident, plus the competition!  Seeing young men with poster board horses attached to strings trying to race them was a joy.  Really don’t know who had more fun, them or us.

Second was visiting the visiting the orphanage in Bien Hoa on our off days and bringing them any supplies we could.  So bittersweet.  Beautiful children, unfortunately discarded because many had American fathers.  Biracial children were outcasts.

Third, just being there when a young man needed someone to talk to, even for a short time.  Some were close to rotating home and wanted to make sure they could talk to a young American female without cussing!

Lastly, actually developing a few relationships with the Vietnamese women.  One especially was our mamasan in Bien Hoa.  When I worked the rec center sometimes she would bring me lunch and the next time I would bring lunch to her.  She wrote me a letter when she knew I was going home.  I still have it.

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Linda Sullivan Schulte
Published September 22, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Linda Sullivan Schulte

In our twenty ninth edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Linda tells how hearing a presentation at her college by General Lewis Walt prompted her to join the Donut Dollies program, how she and a fellow Donut Dollie had been dropped off to program at a location where there were no soldiers and needed to be extracted quickly, and that she came home from Vietnam with a trunk load of memories, but didn’t open it for years.

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What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

Throughout my college life I marched in anti war protests.  In my senior year (1967-68) at Western Maryland College (now McDaniel), General Lewis Walt had just returned from Vietnam and came to speak to our students.  He impressed me greatly with his articulate presentation, his concern and his integrity.  I decided I needed to go to Vietnam to learn more… we had a number of classmates serving there.. I wanted to see what Vietnam was really about.  I wrote to a variety of nonprofits looking for an organization to send me there.  The Red Cross interviewed me.. the job was for one year and they wanted women ages 21 to 25 with liberal arts degrees.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I arrived in Vietnam in July of 1968… a month after graduation.  I was stationed in Lai Khe with the 1st Division… the Big Red One.  In October I was transferred to Dong Ba Thin to close that unit and move it to a new Air Force Base at Tuy Hoa.  Then in February or March, not sure exactly, I was sent up north to Phu Bai.  No nicknames in Vietnam, just Linda.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

There were seldom any routine days, but I was mostly involved in clubmobile units traveling generally by helicopter out to different field units.  We Donut Dollies averaged around 1,500 miles a week in our travels.  I’m not sure of the origin of that figure, but it was in my journal.  We would mainly program to troops, handout supplies and mail, etc.

Donut Dollie Suzie and I got dropped off once at the Loch Ninh air strip through a mix up.  There were no U.S. soldiers there… it was just us holding our program bag.  Fortunately, General Talbott, Commanding General of the Big Red One, swooped down in his chopper and removed us quickly.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

We all had incidents like getting gassed, watching occasional rockets come into the base and sniper fire, but nothing serious, as the troops took care to protect us.

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

Not injured.

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

We visited those who were truly injured in hospitals.  It was always difficult, as many of those visited were just a few years younger than us.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

The transition home was easy.  I got home with a trunk loaded with Vietnam memories and vowed to not open it for a while.  I went to the Baltimore Red Cross to thank them for allowing me to be a part of SRAO and was offered a job.  I started it a week or so later.  I didn’t open that trunk for years, which allowed me to spoon out those memories in select doses… and manage the emotions that way.  I joined Ron Kovic in DC protesting the poor care Vietnam vets were receiving from the VA.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

I’d hope that people remember all of the women who served in Vietnam, but also remember that it took decades for those Vietnam vets to get welcomed home.. and some have never been.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

My best memories are all about the people there, as well as the Donut Dollies that I am still fortunate to call friends.

 

 

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Teri Fisk Hermans
Published September 15, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Teri Fisk Hermans

In our twenty eighth edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Teri tells how she joined the Donut Dollie program and convinced two friends to join as well, how she visited the wounded soldiers on the USS Sanctuary Hospital ship in the South China sea, and that even after a long and exhausting day, see was happy to know that she gave a morale boost to the men.

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What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

I wanted to travel and do something exciting when I left college.  Also, I was an Army brat.  I was aware of some Red Cross programs, so I sent a letter to the Red Cross asking about job opportunities, and received information about the SRAO (Donut Dollie) program.  I told 2 of my friends from the University of Nebraska and they both joined the SRAO program, with one going to Korea and the other to Vietnam.

 

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I attended the training class in Washington, DC at the end of July, 1969, and I was first stationed at Camp Eagle with the 101st Airborne Division from August – November, ’69; then Cam Ranh AFB from November ’69 – May ’70; and then at Cu Chi with the 25th Infantry Division from May – July ’70.  I was known as Teri in Vietnam.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

At Camp Eagle and Cu Chi, which were both division base camps, we had clubmobile units that visited firebases.  Two women at a time rotated to do program development one week, and then 2 or 3 weeks in the field.  The week we developed a program, we stayed at the base camp, came up with original ideas, developed all the props for audience participation type games that would last one hour and could be carried in one large bag. The weeks we were in the field we were up at 6:30 or 7, had breakfast at the mess hall, 2 of us would meet our designated chopper with our bag of programs, fly out to firebases and do a one hour program, getting as many men involved in the activities as we could.  The men loved the deviation from their regular duties and/or boredom, if only for an hour.

A chopper (usually a Huey) was assigned to shuttle us from firebase to firebase, usually 4-5 firebases per day, then back to our base camp.  At the end of the day we were tired, hot, sweaty, dirty, and very gratified to know that we had boosted the morale of the guys in the field.  At Cam Ranh AFB we did not spend much time in the field, as we ran two recreation centers, much like USO Clubs, where there was coffee, pool tables and card games.  We planned all kinds of activities during the day that were well attended by the guys; some of them were pie eating contests (see photo), different tournaments, taking the guys to an orphanage, doing fashion shows, etc.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

I experienced incoming several different times at Camp Eagle, usually at night, which kept our unit in the bunker.  Once at a firebase, we spent a long time in the TOC (Tactical Operations Center) due to incoming, and somehow we did not seem phased.  We always felt well protected… youth has its advantages!

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

Yes… this is ridiculous… I twisted my knee while dancing and had to wear a cast. Also, in our hooch at Cu Chi, while repairing a board for one of our programs that had a nail on it, it fell and hit my head, for which I had a few stitches.

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

Depressing in Vietnam, as they were always injured quite badly, but the guys always appreciated our visits.  I also had the opportunity to program on the USS Sanctuary Hospital Ship in the South China Sea…. those guys really appreciated our visit.  From 1970-71, I was with the Red Cross at the Long Beach and San Diego Naval Hospitals – most of the men in these facilities were not badly wounded, so we planned outings to baseball games, trips to the zoo, etc.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

It was difficult… no one to talk to about my experiences and I couldn’t find a job. I visited my friend for a while in Arizona, then rejoined the Red Cross.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

That it was a memorable, positive experience for most of us.  The work we did was appreciated and morale boosting…not to mention exciting.  We were young, loved what we were doing, didn’t think much about the dangers of war, and we felt we were helping in a way that we could.

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them? Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

Most veterans appreciated what we did… and yes, many friends/vets have thanked me.  A couple years ago I was in Santa Fe… my Colorado license plate holder says Donut Dollie in pretty small letters.  It was about 6AM, and this car is coming up behind me and the guy started honking and honking, then he pulled up beside me and said he was a vet, and asked if I was a Donut Dollie?  I said yes, and he thanked me.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

The camaraderie of the women.  Many of these women (and their husbands who were vets) are still good friends.  We lived together, worked together and had experiences that most women never had.

The welcoming, wonderful guys.  We were so appreciated and felt we were doing something positive to help them.

I met my husband (to be) in Cu Chi and after 46 years, 2 kids and 4 grandchildren, it is still a great marriage.

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Karel Dierks Robertson
Published September 8, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Karel Dierks Robertson

In our twenty seventh edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Karel tells how she joined the Donut Dollie program to help make things a little better for the soldiers in Vietnam, that she was at Cam Ranh base during some dangerous situations, and how kind and chivalrous the soldiers were to the Donut Dollies.

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What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

The short answer: To do something to make life a little bit better for all the soldiers serving in Vietnam.

The longer answer: As a nursing student at San Diego State I had cared for young men, my age or only slightly older, who had been catastrophically injured.  I also had a lot of friends who had served with the Army in Vietnam and returned bitter about the “lost year” of their lives spent in country.  Along with this influence was the general disillusionment that was taking hold in the U.S.  I was working in NYC as a nurse the day it was announced that bombing raids had begun on Cambodia.  I could only think about how much longer we would be at war in a part of the world that I knew so little about and how many more young men would be drafted during that time.  During a discussion with a friend, I expressed a desire to do something for the soldiers, but not as a military nurse.   She told me about a friend of hers who had been a Donut Dollie.  I also wanted to see the country that was tearing my country apart, or so it seemed at the time.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I served at Camp Eagle from August – October, 1971, at Cam Ranh Air Base (CRAB) from October 1971 – late March, 1972, and then TDY (temporary duty) at Bien Hoa for 2 weeks in mid-March. I returned to CRAB for at least a week after being at Bien Hoa to help pack up and close the centers and then went to Saigon to await DEROS (Date Estimated Return From Overseas) and a flight back to “the world”.  There were several of us and we waited a few days before we could get a flight out.  Some of us were planning to stop in Japan to travel a bit before resuming our trip home to California.

I did assume a nickname after Carol Clark arrived at Camp Eagle as the new Unit Director.  After a couple of weeks it became too confusing to have two people with similar sounding names in one place.  I dropped the “r” and the “l” and became Kae.  That followed me to CRAB — sort of.  I used both my given name and my nickname there.  Mostly because I had a name tag with “Kae.”

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

At Camp Eagle the days were generally spent programming at various firebases. We usually went to at least two each day we went out into the field.  The plan was set by the program director for the week, as I recall, but we had to check each morning to be sure it was safe enough for us to visit that day.  Transportation was by Huey.  Saturdays was usually spent programming on the base and trying out new programs.  Once a week two of us would go to Camp Evans for the day, programming to various units there and end the day doing a “show” for the newest arrivals.  I never knew what they were told was going to happen before they were marched into the little amphitheater, but the looks on the soldier’s faces was always surprise and delight.

At Cam Ranh AFB we did have a mobile component to our work, but mostly we ran two recreation centers on the base. We rotated shifts and locations.  Our day off rotated also because the centers operated seven days a week.  The trips to the highlands were every few weeks, as I remember.  I don’t think a team was sent every week.  We spent at least one night at a MACV villa, sometimes two nights.  For that trip, we were flown up in a Caribou and then traveled by jeep or truck to engineering camps, mainly.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

There was one day on a firebase that required the two of us being hustled into the underground command center while a call was sent out for a helicopter to come get us. They finally got a big Chinook to come for us.

At Cam Ranh there were some periods when we had to close the rec center on the far side of the base due to alerts that “sappers” had come through the wire. The term sappers was used to described Vietnamese (probably local Viet Cong) who were skilled at demolition or firing crude rockets..  Their goal was to set off explosions inside the perimeter of the base — as I understood it.

And, shortly before the base was completely closed, there was a rocket attack one night that hit the hangers near the compound that housed the Donut Dollies. No one was injured, but everyone who felt like a short-timer was rattled, myself included.

 

 

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

No.

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

That was not a regular part of my experience.  There was still a small medical facility at Cam Ranh AFB and most of the patients were not as catastrophically injured as they probably had been a few years earlier (I was in Vietnam 1971 – 1972).  There were probably more patients suffering some sort of stress/PTSD.  I did go once to a locked facility for drug abuse while I was stationed at Camp Eagle.  It was run by the Marines.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

Not terrible, but a little rocky.  I returned to my job as an ICU nurse where I had been working before going to Vietnam.  Oddly, I did occasionally have moments of panic/anxiety related to explosive sounds and helicopters that lasted for several years.  It was never incapacitating and eventually faded over the course of about five or six years.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

We were sincerely interested in making life better for the young soldiers who were serving in country, no matter what our political view of the war while there or after our time in country.

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them? Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

I assume that most veterans have a positive impression of the work the Donut Dollies did.  No, I have not had any interaction with any Vietnam veterans who encountered Donut Dollies during their service.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

Flying over the tree tops in a helicopter

The soldiers at Camp Evans when they saw us

How truly kind and chivalrous so many soldiers were to us — offering the last can of Coke on a hot afternoon; trying to quiet the more obstreperous members of a group when we were programming; always being willing to help with any task we ever requested assistance with; etc.

A visit to an orphanage with a medical team — not exactly a “fondest memory” but definitely a deeply moving memory

The Santabou flight at Christmas — even though many of the places we went that day were operating on skeleton crews because everyone was at the Bob Hope show

As incongruous as it may seem, the fun I had during the time I was in country — the camaraderie with other Donut Dollies and with the soldiers and airmen.

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Judy Harper
Published September 1, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Judy Harper

In our twenty sixth edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Judy tells how she went to Vietnam to see the pros and cons of the war for herself, how she enjoyed talking and getting to know the GIs, and how one time she and a fellow Donut Dollie rode the Cu Chi base bus singing Halloween carols.

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What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

My peers had one opinion of the Vietnam War, and my parents another.  A woman two years ahead of me in college (Western Maryland College – now re-named McDaniel College), Linda Sullivan (a.k.a. Sully) returned to campus my senior year and talked about what she’d experienced in the Donut Dollie program.  So, not having much world experience, and wanting to see the pros and cons of the war for myself, I thought it would be a great thing to do.  I have always believed in service, and this certainly fit that bill.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam? Did you go by a nickname?

I was stationed in Qui Nhon from September – October 1970; I was in Cu Chi from October – December 1970, where I re-opened the unit that was closed down after a Donut Dollie (Ginny Kirsch – learn more here) was murdered, which was open for the six weeks until the 25th stood down; I was in Danang from December 1970 – May 1971 – with a TDY (temporary duty) to Quang Tri over Christmas; and at Binh Thuy from May – July 1971. I was known as Judy in Vietnam.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

I don’t think there was much ‘routine’ in our days.  It would depend upon whether we were in the field or in a recreation center. We would be developing programs, and putting on programs with small or large groups of GIs.  Sometimes we would be invited to the officer’s mess or to some event with officers in the evenings.  But I enjoyed more of our time with the regular enlisted troops, who didn’t enjoy all the officers’ perks.

One of the things I appreciated most about my time in Vietnam was how very real my relationships and conversations were.  In a war zone, feelings that would never be expressed when at home, were right near the surface.  And I believe that the GIs thought it was ‘safe’ to reveal their feelings to us.

I used to love flying around in the helicopters, [although I found I had to go against Red Cross rules and put my hair in braids and jam a boonie hat over it to avoid the three hours it once took to get the tangles out!] and to this day I love small planes, etc.

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

Only had to go under the mattresses twice – I think once each in Qui Nhon and Danang, but I may be mis-remembering the locations.

I found out about another close call – again cannot remember where – after the fact. A Huey dropped us off on a grassy knoll in the middle of nowhere, (with lots of ice cream!) no one in sight until the helicopter flew off, then the GIs rose from their hiding spots in the tall grasses.  We did our thing, got picked up again and left.  We found out later that the helicopters dropping us off and picking us up must have marked the whereabouts of the GIs, who were hit by the VC shortly thereafter.  What an awful feeling to know that we’d put a bulls-eye on them!

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

NO

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

It was sometimes hard, especially when I would know them from our visits with them in the field.  I learned to stay cool when looking at “jungle rot” – gross!  Even more poignant were the visits (I often organized them when we were in the major base areas) to the orphanages, where we found the bulk of the children to be Amer-Asian.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

I spent five months traveling through Japan, Russia and Europe afterward.  It was an interesting journey.  Especially in Russia, where we saw plenty of soldiers with the hated AK-47s!  I quickly learned that we couldn’t talk about our RVN experience there.  That was probably good, not dwelling on the past.  I ran into another Donut Dollie somewhere in Europe, who was apparently getting tiresome to her traveling companions with her constant talk of RVN.

I found myself somewhat emotionally vulnerable, but then I’d always been that way.  But the close emotional connections with others just didn’t happen as often when people were back home, surrounded by support systems of friends and family.

Shortly after returning, I went to see a friend from college.  After a year in a war zone, her life seemed superficial to me – revolving around china patterns and matching furniture.  These days, there are times when I begin thinking about those kinds of things myself.  I pull myself up abruptly, remembering my experiences in Vietnam, and how truly insignificant such considerations are.  There are so many more important things in my life.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

We were just regular young women who wanted to serve others.  I grew up a lot that year.

 

 
How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them? Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

I know they appreciated us.  They tell me so when I visit the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Memorial or Veteran’s Day.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

Halloween Carols on the base bus in Cu Chi.  I remember that Penni Evans and I dressed in costume (Penni was in a flight suit, and I was the Electric Strawberry – i.e. the 25th’s patch – red mailbag, cardboard lightning bolt, green boonie hat = charming, I’m sure!), hijacked a bus on base and led the riders in several rounds of Halloween carols.  And of course, I have no clue what we sang that day!  But it was all fun!

Easter morning 1971, sunrise on the beach.  Somewhere I have a photo of that morning, with concertina wire in the foreground.

While on TDY to Quang Tri over Christmas 1970, we attended the Bob Hope show at Camp Eagle.  More memorably though, was meeting Admiral McCain [even gave him a ditty bag – didn’t know who he was until later].  Apparently he visited the DMZ every Christmas, while his son, John, was a POW in North Vietnam.  A somber time for him.

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The Donut Dollie Detail… 25 Stories and Counting!
Published August 25, 2017 by Jim

The Donut Dollie Detail… 25 Stories and Counting!

Last Friday, we posted the 25th edition of our weekly feature, The Donut Dollie Detail. We couldn’t be prouder of the Red Cross Donut Dollies, and we appreciate them sharing their personal stories of their time serving in Korea and Vietnam.
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Meet Donut Dollie Dorset Hoogland Anderson – Served in Vietnam from 1968-69 at Nha Trang, Cu Chi and Tuy Hoa

Meet Donut Dollie Penni Evans – Served in Vietnam from 1970-71 at Cam Rahn Air Base, Long Binh (II Field Force), Cu Chi and Quang Tri

Meet Donut Dollie Mary Blanchard Bowe – Served in Vietnam from 1968-69 at Dong Ba Thien, Pleiku, Tuy Hoa and Qui Nhon

Meet Donut Dollie Linnie Stone – Served in Vietnam from 1966-67 at Pleiku, Long Binh and Lai Khe

Meet Donut Dollie Susan Heinzelman Ladnier – Served in Korea and Vietnam from 1967-68 at Camp Humphries (Korea), Danang, Qui Nhon, Lai Khe and Pleiku.

Meet Donut Dollie Cecelia Burgess Grandison – Served in Vietnam in 1968 at Phu Loi

Meet Donut Dollie Mary de la Forest-Evans – Served in Vietnam from 1968-69 at Cam Ranh Bay

Meet Donut Dollie Diane Schmidt Curley – Served in Vietnam from 1968-69 at Chu Lai and Pleiku (TDY)

Meet Donut Dollie Ellen Cadden Nagy – Served in Vietnam from 1970-71 at Bien Hoa, Da Nang and Long Binh

Meet Donut Dollie Bobbie Lischak Trotter – Served in Vietnam from 1970-71 at Qui Nhon, Bien Hoa and DaNang

Meet Donut Dollie Maggie Connor Dutilly – Served in Vietnam from 1971-72 at Danang, Quang Tri, Bien Hoa (TDY) and Cam Ranh Army

Meet Donut Dollie Sharon (Vander Ven) Cummings – Served in Vietnam from 1966-67 at Cam Ranh Army, Long Binh (II Field Force) and Cu Chi

Meet Donut Dollie Lou Breen Rundle – Served in Vietnam from 1971-72 at Qui Nhon and Cam Ranh Air Base

Meet Donut Dollie Susan Baiamonte Conklin – Served in Vietnam from 1968 at Cam Ranh Bay, Lai Khe and Da Nang

Meet Donut Dollie Marilyn Schmokel Dent – Served in Vietnam from 1968 at Xuan Loc, An Khe and Dong Tam

Meet Donut Dollie Terre Deegan-Young – Served in Vietnam from 1970-71 at Chu Lai (Americal Division), Bien Hoa and Camp Eagle (near Hue)

Meet Donut Dollie Linda Meinders Webb – Served in Vietnam from 1969-70 at Danang, Cam Ranh Air (TDY), Cam Ranh Army, and Pleiku

Meet Donut Dollie Marrilee Shannon – Served in Vietnam from 1969-70 at Cu Chi, Cam Rahn AFB and Phan Rang AFB

Meet Donut Dollie Agnes Fortune – Served in Vietnam from 1968-69 at Blackhorse in Long Kahn Province, Cu Chi and Long Binh (II Field Force)

Meet Donut Dollie Eileen O’Neill – Served in Vietnam from 1971-72 at Danang, Phan Rang Air Base, Bien Hoa (TDY) and Binh Thuy

Meet Donut Dollie Barbara McDaniel Stephens – Served in Vietnam from 1969-70 at Bien Hoa, Danang and Cam Ranh Army

Meet Donut Dollie Nancy Olsen Hewitt – Served in Vietnam from 1970-71 at Phan Rang Air Force Base, Bien Hoa Army, Cam Ranh Army and Cam Ranh Air Force Base

Meet Donut Dollie René Johnson– Served in Vietnam from 1969-70 at Chu Lai (Americal Division) and Cu Chi

Meet Donut Dollie Diane Johnson Tucker – Served in Vietnam from 1970-71 at Qui Nhon, Camp Eagle (near Hue) and at Cam Ranh Bay

Meet Donut Dollie Jeanne “Sam” Bokina Christie – Served in Vietnam from 1967-68 at Nha Trang, Danang and Phan Rang

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Jeanne “Sam” Bokina Christie
Published August 18, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Jeanne “Sam” Bokina Christie

In our twenty fifth edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Sam tells how wanting to go on an adventure prompted her to join the SRAO program in Vietnam, how she got the nickname Sam, and how the Donut Dollies broke down barriers for women who wanted to serve our country.

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Please meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Jeanne “Sam” Bokina Christie…

What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

What made me go?  Adventure, and I lived in Wisconsin at the time, where it is very cold…  I wanted to go someplace warm and I had NO clue about the war.

I went for training in Washington, DC and we learned about military rank and protocol, and some programming, but it was not until we got to Vietnam that it made any sense.  I had been an Art Major in College, so construction and visual design were not a problem for me.  However, leaning to communicate confidence and positive energy came from experience and from one another.

Training… How does someone ‘teach’ you to speak to a group of men, in fact many men with different agendas?  Experience.  Look at each, smile, use your non-verbals, let them know they are important and you’re their sister/wife/mom…. own the moment, make it special for them and then move on.  The women who were ‘old timers’ had perfected the art of communication and time management and we learned it from them.  Training was not just a class, it was a life experience.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I was stationed at Nha Trang from January to late April 1967, then at Danang from late April to September 1967, and then Phan Rang from September 1967 until the start of Tet in 1968.

Sam was my nickname.  I had lost my nametag in Danang and a Gunnie Sergeant came into the flight line center one day, and I was “out of uniform” with no name tag, so he gave me a “Sam” nametag.  I put it on and the next morning at 0700 I had to do a TV spot for the Freedom Hill Center and it was one of those split second moments.  I started to say “Hi, I am… (realized I still had the nametag on) and said Sam.  So, I stayed Sam for the rest of my tour.  Besides, it always made me smile and the guys always tried to figure out what my real name was.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

I really have to view it as the job we did, which was psychological health and welfare. We did an awful lot of just listening to the guys, especially when they would vent. Sometimes we tried to make sense of their crazy world and make life bearable for them.  Sometimes we were goofy and just fun loving.  We were like a balancing ball, or gyroscope, that stayed centered.

We learned to bury the unpleasant parts of the experience and take the next step forward.  We learned that our composure helped their composure.  If you could get someone to laugh, then they couldn’t cry… the same was true for us.

This is going to sound silly, but it was our job!  There were many times when it was very, very difficult, but you did the best you could and if the Donut Dollie you were working with, fell apart, you did the best to pull it all back together.  We learned to make jokes, laugh at ourselves, take a deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep breath, gather composure and Smile!

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

While in country, I had experienced serious illness, been sexually harassed, experienced a person break into my quarters, and dealt with peeping toms.  I even had to deal with being told that my Donut Dollie photos had been found on a captured VC.  These challenges and dangers refined my thinking and attitude.  Seeing so many wounded along with the attrition rate, made me realize it was not my time.  Sometimes there was no rhyme or reason why things happened or people died, so that was part of why I developed that attitude.

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

Nope, not injured in Vietnam, but I did get amoebic dysentery while in Nha Trang and ended up being carried over to the hospital by Kathy Wickstrom, who was my roommate.  I was not in good shape and Kathy had to move out of our room.  Bein the housemaid, took care of me until I could move.  I could barely walk, so Kathy helped me get to the dispensary.  Then the doctors wanted to take my temp and I started heaving all over again.  They placed me in a private room off one of the wards to recover.  All the guys on the ward knew I was in the room.  The worst part was, I had to try and walk to the nurse’s head, and when I finally needed it, they served onion soup, which made me gag all over again. Just a memorable moment in my life…

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals? 

First of all… I can hardly put a bandage on someone… I had NO medical training.  None – zip, nah dah!  I did have empathy and compassion like many of the nurses and I had a job goal.  Theirs was medical, mine was psychological.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

Returning home was difficult.  Life in Wisconsin was so mundane and boring.  My father was very pragmatic and his attitude was, “Okay Jeanne, get on with your life.  What are you going to do now?”  I had been accepted into a Graduate program, so I knew what I was going to do.  I tried to get a menial job for 3 months, screwing tops on pots, but the company would not hire me.  So I called the Red Cross and they sent me back to work at Great Lakes Naval Hospital until I was ready for school.  I was a wild/cocky/not wanting to follow strict rules person.  Wear a cap?  I would carry it until I walked to the door.  Put it on my head and walked through the door, then took it off again.

In Madison, the students were protesting and I had learned very quickly I could not share my experiences of Vietnam with them.  I just did not like what I heard people saying and thinking about the Vietnam War and the veterans who were “my boys”, and always will be, for as long as they/we live.

We lost many good friends and have witnessed the fallout of our country for those who only did as they were told.  We (in a very collective way) refuse to let that happen again.  However, we were exclusive self-managing teams who went were other feared to go.  We broke barriers and the standards for what the next generation of women could do.  We did it with pride and dignity.  Like our silent role over there, we are still doing many silent tasks that make a difference in the communities we live in.

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

I am always reminded that I am not a veteran!  I have no DD214 form, I have no healthcare or pension.  I have no access to veteran’s programs and benefits.  I have nothing but my memories.  A bitter pill?  Yes and no… because that was a historical time, and I recognize that only 3% of the total military could be women.  I knew the military needed medical people, intelligence personal and support staff (The Marine Corps actually had a woman’s patch).  I had been an Art Major, so the MOS (military occupational specialty) options were not for me.  Several years later the quota was raised to 11%, but combat slots were not available for women for many years to come.

I had never been debriefed for the traumatic events that I had experienced, and I really needed someone to talk to.  A dear Air Force friend was the decompression person.  He was a good buddy who could tell me like it was and I respected his opinion.  So I went to see him and that gave me time to pull my thoughts together.

We dared be in an unpopular national crisis, but had little to say, yet we supported so many.  For what it was worth, I did write protest letters to the President when I was back in the states.

Well, the men just saw us as the girl back home… they saw their mom, who had cared for them, and they saw us as angels and bitches all at the same time.  Angels because we were in light blue and ‘smelled good” and often flew into their locations (as if dropping in from the sky).  Bitches because we talked to everyone, and sometimes we had to put a guy who wanted exclusive attention or physical attention, in their place.

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them?   Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

When I first became involved again back in the 1980’s… I ran into a few vets who did not really know a Donut Dollie.  However, I must admit I ran into more who did know who we were and valued our connection.  In fact one vet who heard I was a DD gave me a big sweep you off your feet hug and a huge kiss before walking away.  One group of vets in DC, during one of the early events, turned to my husband (a Vietnam era vet) and said “she’s not your wife, she is our Donut Dollie”.  He has never forgotten that reality check, but totally understands the perspective and depth of meaning.  I feel it was a moment when my husband knew I would always be his wife, but my heart would remain with another group of veterans until my and their dying day.

During the past decade or two, I have had nothing but kind words from the vets as they shared their past difficult and wonderful experiences.  Even if they never had a DD visit their unit or firebase, they have learned from other vets about DD’s, who did know what we did and valued our efforts.  Many remain surprised we ‘volunteered’ to go and did what we did.  What sometimes surprises me is just walking about and having a younger vet walk past and they say “thank you for your service”.  I am always taken back a bit, but feel very flattered that they care that we cared for their brothers.  On the other hand, I also care about their service and sacrifices and say so.  There will always be something special about our collective experiences.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

Nothing but memories… it is not meant as a negative, but a reality.  Today, when I think about how Vietnam affected my life, it is both a positive and negative.

The positives = I can and will do darn near everything I set my mind to… some may say I’m bullheaded or determined, but I think it is just knowing what I want.

I have seen and done a lot during my lifetime… and I can understand the historical perspective for example, regarding the roles of women and the role of caregiving.

I made good friends, lost good friends, but have continued to move in a forward motion.

I learned a heck of a lot about myself – We only cry for ourselves, so quit crying and get going.  Life is a revolving cycle and we have to enjoy the moments.  I learned to laugh at crazy things.  Life has been interesting.

The negatives = I lost a lot of faith in the integrity of governments.  Not just ours, because they all play a different game, but in the way alternate truths and realities often skew various perspectives.

War is a nasty game, I wish we would never have war again.

I was tough on my children when they snibbled and whined; I was the drill Sergeant and made them get moving.  Actually that was not bad, but I do see the attitude coming back sometimes.

I still can have a hard surface… (for example when my students give me their excuses).

I learned to laugh at crazy things when it sometimes is not generally appropriate.

Vietnam was my million dollar education.  I learned so much about the world, men, other people, but mostly about myself.  How strong, and even tough, I could be and how much I could accomplish.  I learned to dig deep within myself and address those often difficult decisions we have to make in life.  Would I do it again?  Absolutely, but of course I am no longer 21 years old.

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Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Diane Johnson Tucker
Published August 11, 2017 by Jim

Meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Diane Johnson Tucker

In our twenty fourth edition of the Donut Dollie Detail, Diane tells that she went to Vietnam to support the troops, why Donut Dollies would drink 6-8 Cokes in a day, and how she repelled from a helicopter over Camp Evans.

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Please meet Red Cross Donut Dollie Diane Johnson Tucker…

What prompted you to join the SRAO (Supplemental Recreation Activities Overseas) program and want to go to Vietnam?

My reasons were twofold.  I wanted to travel and see the world (ha!) and I felt like we needed to support our troops that were being sent to war.

When and where were you stationed in Vietnam?  Did you go by a nickname?

I was stationed in Qui Nhon from March – June, 1970, at Camp Eagle (near Hue or Phu Bai) from July – October, 1970 and at Cam Ranh Bay from November, 1970 until my departure in February, 1971.  I was known as Diane during my tour in Vietnam.

What was a routine day like in Vietnam?

A routine day consisted of flying by helicopter to 6-8 firebases and putting on our unique programs.  The troops always wanted to give us something and the only thing that they had to offer were Cokes.  We would drink 6-8 Cokes in a day, because they seemed hurt if we did not accept!!!  After returning to base camp we were often invited to attend a dinner or some sort of celebration.

 

 

Did you ever have any “close calls” either on base or in any vehicles?

While stationed at Qui Nhon and Camp Eagle we had to run to our bunker 5-6 times, but none of us came close to being injured.

Were you ever injured while in Vietnam?

No

What was it like to visit the soldiers in the hospitals?

I found visiting the soldiers in the hospital very difficult, because I had a hard time figuring out what to say to them.  Especially if they were missing limbs.

How was the transition returning home to the United States?

I had no problem with the transition home.   Surprisingly I was greeted favorably upon landing (we had to land at Oakland).

What would you like people to remember and understand most about the women who served?

Over the years I have learned that the world consists of givers and takers. The ladies that I worked with in Vietnam were definitely “givers”!

How do you feel Veterans think of your time having served with them?  Have any Veterans expressed their feelings to you directly?

Many years went by and not much was said, however, recently I have been hearing “thank you’s” from veterans and have spoken to a couple groups about my experiences.  It seems that there has been an awakening of interest in the Donut Dollies.

What are your fondest or most interesting memories of your time serving in Vietnam?

One of my most interesting memories is of a 1st lieutenant whose wife had come into the country!  There was no place for her to stay, so she stayed with us!  While her husband worked, we took her with us on our trips to the firebases and she helped us serve lunch to the troops!  That could have meant trouble for ALL of us!!!

Another memory is repelling from a helicopter over Camp Evans.  Very unfortunately, however, the young captain was demoted for allowing this, but his purpose was to show the Vietnamese that he was training, how not be be afraid.

 

 

 

 

 

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